Blog Post #10

In the article All Writers Have More to Learn by Shirley Rose, she talks about how writers will always have more to learn about writing. Writers must struggle to write in new contexts and genres. Deciding what quote to use and choosing evidence is not something that can be learned just once, it takes practice. The threshold concept is helpful for writers to understand and enable them to recognize difficulty in writing. On the same note, in the reading Learning to Write Effectively Requires Different Kinds of Practice, Time, and Effort by Kathleen Blake Yancey, she discusses how we become familiar with writing through practice. Practicing writing provides fluidity, writers become familiar and it starts to flow. Another kind of practice is refined technique. We can create things that seem out of reach by combining words. Practice can also involve people. With their responses, we can revise and communicate more clearly. The threshold concept is learning to write effectively in different contexts or communities. Research has demonstrated that effective writer’s practice is key. Practice helps to develop into competent writers.

These two readings are important to a writing class because it helps to let the students know that writing is not a one and done thing. Writing takes patience and practice. It is okay to fail and mess up, but you have to stick with it and use your time to revise to achieve the grade that you want. Writing students need to take time to reread and revise their work. They need to not get stressed or upset when they do not succeed their first time.

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Discussion Post #10

In the article “All Writers Have More to Learn” by Shirley Rose, she explains that writing is such a tuff topic and can learn so many different things. She tells us that is takes time and effort even if it’s not good. It’s better to make mistakes and learn from them, then not try at all. Strategies are also important. There are tons of them and all of them help. Aswell as, have prior experience will help with habits, to become a better writer. In Kathleen Blake Yancey’s article, “Learning to Write Effectively,” she explains that we need to practice like crazy to become a good writer. If you want to get good at something, you need to practice. Make sure you practice in the write spots or types of things you do to write a paper. Stuff that gets you in the zone to write something amazing. Learning to write effectively also takes other people to help you.

I believe teachers should teach a little more in depth with writing, sense it’s a hard topic to handle. They also need to be more kind about bad papers, so they can just help the student. The writing students need to be engaged in the class, sense its English. It’s not an easy subject and it take time to learn. Colleges need to have better directions for the paper. I do light how this class is set up. There are tons of steps that help you along the way to create a good paper, that are more Indepth. K-12 should have more classes about English. I have learned way more than I have in the past 4 years of my high school English classes. These are more Indepth and easier to do. They don’t really help us that much on papers for college.

 

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Blog # 10

In the reading “All Writers Have More to Learn” by Shirley Rose she describes to us that writing abilities are not a one and done deal. Writing requires a constant effort in order to see improvements. As we learn and grow as writers we learn what styles and techniques work for them, those then become a baseline for them. A writer will never know everything that writing entails. She explains that the learning process of writing does not end at the school level. We learn that after school we seem to learn different way that may not have been introduced to us. This could be a caveat that we need to be shown these different types of writing in school that way we become more educated on how to go about them. There is writing present everywhere so we are all constantly improving it even if we do not know it.

To go along with Shirleys writing, Kathleens writing of “Learning to Write Effectively”  has a similar concept. She takes makes us realize how familiar we are with writing. She compares writing to swimming and how we become familiar with the feeling of being in the water, the same goes for writing we become familiar. There are many different ways that we all go about practicing our writing techniques. If we combine multiple writing techniques to practice we improve at a better rate. The two readings both hit the same idea of how we prepare ourselves and practice writing. We see a heavy amount of this practice in our schooling time. So ensuring that we make vigilant effort to teach us these ways to find our own techniques is really important.

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Blog Post #10

In Kathleen Blake Yancey’s article, “Learning to Write Effectively,” she talks about the importance of practicing writing. There are specific parts of writing that more people should practice, fluidity, and refining techniques. Another suggestion is to practice with other people, it can help how we communicate through our writing. We have to practice so that we can write effectively in other contexts. Similarly, in Shirly Rose’s, “All Writers Have More to Learn,” she talks about how learning to write is a continuous learning cycle. She explains that when someone learns to write efficiently in one context, then one would have to learn another, and it is an ongoing cycle. Writers figure out which strategies work best for them; however, it is not the same for everybody and is hard to teach efficiently.  

I think that teachers should be more forgiving of students’ writing. There should be multiple drafts that a student has to turn in so that they can understand the writing process better. This semester I have learned that my writing does not always have to be perfect, and it is a process to be able to write effectively. Schools should provide more sources to help our understanding of the writing process, and try to help students understand that the five-paragraph essay is not always the way to go. 

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Blog Post 9

In “Revision is Central to Developing Writing” Doug Downs talks about how writers repeatedly edit their work. He talks about how writing is something that takes revision to be right because the first draft is not perfect. He also talks about how writing can open up a writers initial thoughts on a topic and compares this to headlights. After the first draft, you can see further because your headlights have luminated further. Also, having peers review your first draft may even give you a different perspective on your topic and see something you may not have seen before.

The essays “Revision is Central to Developing Writing” by Doug Downs and “Shitty First Drafts” by Anne Lamott are similar in the fact that they both talk about first drafts not being good. They both also talk about how revision is a key part of writing and writing well. After reading both essays I have come to realize that I should not put so much pressure on my 1st draft and I should make more time for revisions and not take it so harshly when given feedback.

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Blog Post #9

In “Revision is Central to Developing Writing,” Doug Downs talks about the importance of the revision process in writing. Downs says that revising a first draft can help a writer develop full ideas and see other points of view. When reviewing one’s writing, one may think of other things to help complete an idea, and the understanding of the writing. Finally, Downs emphasizes that being told to revise does not make the writing bad, it is just another opportunity to complete ideas, and shows that a writer is mature.

I think that “Shitty First Drafts” by Anne Lamott and “Revision is Central to Developing Writing” by Doug Downs share the same idea. The idea is that your first draft does not have to be perfect and the reason we revise our writings is to make our first drafts complete. However, Lamott thinks that we should be carefree in our first draft, not think too deeply about our ideas, but refine our ideas later in the writing process. Downs thinks that we revise to make our writing more cohesive and understandable. After reading both of these articles I have learned that my first draft can not always be perfect and that’s okay.

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“Revision Is Central to Developing Writing” – Doug Downs

In “Revision Is Central to Developing Writing”, Doug Downs talks about the importance of peer reviewing and revising your paper after a first draft. A first draft is made to find where problem areas are, and fix them. Having someone edit the draft, is better than not, writers can have another perspective and help to make the writing better. Not getting corrections is going to result in negative responses from others when they read it. Revising allows for trying again, and seeing what you may not see. It is a good thing to get edits, not because the writer failed but it shows there is room for improvement and that there is professionalism in the piece.

In both “Revision Is Central to Developing Writing” and “Shitty First Drafts”, the authors talk about how the first draft will not be the best one. They both talk about how writing is not going to be perfect, and will take a lot of revising to even come close. In “Shitty First Drafts”, it talks more about how writing multiple drafts of your writing will lead you to a positive outcome is the best approach to take. In “Revision Is Central to Developing Writing”, the writer talks about the importance of needing to revise work, especially with others, before it is perfect to turn in. The approaches are different. One saying you need to just write everything down, then revise it to condense it and find the words right. The other talks about how after writing a first draft, or multiple drafts, it will benefit more to have others read it and find the negatives so you can fix it and take a different approach to something you already have written. Both approaches would help a writer succeed, but they take different approaches when starting out to find your perfect polished essay.

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Blog Post 9

In the passage ” Revision is central to developing writing” by Doug Downs. The importance to writing is the revision process. Going back and re reading what you have already written can help a lot in helping your writing. It can help see things you may have missed while writing your essay. Things like spelling, sentence error and many more. These things can help your writing pieces get better.

The articles “Shitty First Drafts” and “Revision is central to developing writing” is similar in many different ways. One is that your writing does not have to be perfect on the first try. You can always go back and reread it and see what was missed or see if you missed anything else. These two pieces can help a writer in the best ways because they can help you not be so stressed about getting it perfect on the first try. You can always go back and fix it up.

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Blog Post 9

In the article “Revision Is Central to Developing Writing” by Doug Downs the importance of revising your writing multiple times is stressed.  Going back and rereading your work can cause you to expand the writing’s ideas to make the writing better than the draft. Revisions are not a bad thing, it does not mean you failed, they are needed to achieve a better paper. Revising allows you to add new ideas or take away ones that were thrown in last minute with little thought. Leaving your first draft as a final can make you feel less rewarded.

The articles “Revision Is Central to Developing Writing” by Doug Downs, “Shitty First Drafts” by Anne Lamott are similar in a few ways. One way being rough drafts and revisions are key to creating a good final writing. These are both often looked down on when they do not need to be. They are different because they are done at different times; first draft first then revise. I learned that revision is not just correcting the errors I make but also trying to better understand and expand the ideas of my writing.

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Blog post #9

In the text “Revision is Central to Developing Writing” by Doug Downs, he bases his message around the importance of revising your writing. Downs expresses that revising your work should never be seen as a punishment but rather a privilege. Revising helps you to open new doors in your thinking and add or touch up new ideas based on new knowledge you may have acquired. He also expresses that you are more likely to see rewards from revising versus if you just left your first draft as your final.

“Revision is Central to Developing Writing” by Doug Downs and “Shitty First Drafts” by Anne Lamott each have their similarities. Both of these texts do a very good job of reflecting each other and highlighting the essential main point that is, you must start somewhere. In a very out-front way, Lamott says that every good writer must write multiple drafts in order to reach the one amazing final draft and Downs says that writing will not be correct the very first time and it has to be worked on. Both of these writers have extremely similar views on what it takes to perfect your writing. Based on these two readings, I learned to go easy on myself when it comes to writing but to also take revising seriously as it can only be a tool to help me.

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